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Nevyn Auscent
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Posted - 2013.05.14 00:51:00 -
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The issue is very touchy, due to this sort of thing being a scandel with live events in the past being used simply to hand out stuff to friends.
Obviously this was years ago and the current live events team was uninvolved.
But it's still a huge issue, especially if anything rare gets handed out. What makes one persons contribution any more than someone elses. Especially in a RP type enviroment. How do you score RP? What if that person over there is RP'ing someone who is neutral to this event, so does nothing just observes, does that make them a better or worse contributor to the guy that just wants to gank the shiny ship so organises an attack fleet. |
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Posted - 2013.05.14 02:35:00 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:Well, if not through Live Events, how can these special ships be distributed? Are they never going to be used again?
Well, I'm not 'against' the idea of things getting handing out. But there needs to be a very very transparent process that doesn't only reward certain styles of play over all the others if things are going to be given out.
And personally I can't think of how to design such a process, even if I was only giving out T1 Battle Cruisers & Cruisers without seeming unfair or biased sometimes. |
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Posted - 2013.05.14 09:48:00 -
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Jassmin Joy wrote:The rare special edition ships should never be handed out again, There's only one fedthron in exsistance and while i'd murder my granny for a chance at flying it, Handing them out again after so long wouldent be fair on the collectors who've paid unimaginable amounts of isk, the tribal tempest and a imperial (geddon?) i think it was both recently sold for 2trillion isk...each.
Thats market speculation. Other than the AT ships, I don't believe CCP has ever said something is limited edition. So it really is at buyer risk to speculate that something won't be handed out again at a later date. CCP have said so themselves recently that they won't limit themselves simply because players buy & sell rare items. Only where CCP has declared something to be Limited, rather than Special edition.
But.... as above, I just can't see how you could judge who is worth giving a ship to and who isn't. Even for the simple T1 stuff how do you decide who is entitled & who isn't. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 21:46:00 -
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Except then Goons show up just to suicide gank the shiny ship. And there is no way to stop a suicide gank other than 'don't be there'.
Which means if the Devs aren't there because they are speed warping/cyno'ing/etc we don't get to see the event.
For proof of Goons gank, I refer you to the Tribal Council live event with Tempest Tribal Issues. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 22:01:00 -
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The LP option seems the most viable option. As then you can award everyone present at a live event (even by random chance) the same amount of LP, just to different factions based on actions (Need at least 3 pre-determined factions, one for Pro Devs, one for Anti Devs, and a third for neutral people). Then there is no favouritism, nor unique loot since it's all going to already exist in the LP stores. But if a person attends a lot of live events, the LP will add up over time to be able to purchase things.
I wouldn't mind live events having a bit more draw to get involved. They are effectively missions. And missions do have LP rewards.
But the rare shiny ships hurt events, if given out as loot, or even if Devs just fly them everyone wants a shiny KM. |
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:41:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto  Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc.
On that note, though not really live events, but I hope you all at CCP do take note of how much people actually want an in game way to get hold of such ships. Live Events not being the right way obviously :). But a way is highly desired. (& not P2W either) |
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Posted - 2013.05.21 23:41:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:Could... YOU... the devs i mean... use the shiney of shinies? there are very few ships i havent seen, would love to put a volly into Impoc  The ships in themselfs would make the event lol
That ruins events as much as anything else.
Devs flew TTI in an event. Goons showed up en mass to gank it just because it was a TTI. And since it was Highsec, there was literally no way to defend against a mass gank on overwhelming force. That will happen any event a shiny rare ship comes out at, people will target it just to be on the killmail, with no thought to who is in it. |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 05:06:00 -
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Svetlana Scarlet wrote:Heinel Coventina wrote:Maybe we'll finally have a convoy that fails, then? Yes. Every single one. :P No one likes escort missions in other games, they aren't any better in Eve.
Snipehunt... Fail. In a legit manner. So..... Convoys aren't scripted success, but nice try.
However shiny ships getting ganked because the Devs are attempting to make it an event, rather than cloaked blockade runners leaving at an undisclosed time from an undisclosed location to get the cargo through, simply isn't fun. And will rapidly kill that type of live event for anyone except gankers. |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 09:55:00 -
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Dev roams are very old news. They do them now and then and they aren't really connected with Live Events at all. |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 00:16:00 -
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Considering he was talking purely about live events, not CCP in every aspect..... it's irrelevant.
Because it's a different area.
Learn to read with context people. |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 03:30:00 -
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Lulu McMullin wrote:
In that context it makes this worse.
How does it make it worse?
All they were quoting was CCP saying they would not give away rare ships of any sort as part of Live Events in-game. And trying to apply it out of context to CCP as a whole.
Where as CCP as a whole have said they will re-release special edition ships & items as appropriate for promotions & other such non live events. Just not limited edition ships/items. |
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